tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post1171725179137001925..comments2023-10-30T06:41:44.467-05:00Comments on whatsup?: False Eternal SecurityCathy Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-79586007031024727572013-08-15T20:18:30.649-05:002013-08-15T20:18:30.649-05:00Thanks for the comment!Thanks for the comment!Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-406313152477279252013-08-15T19:32:42.833-05:002013-08-15T19:32:42.833-05:00Hey, dropped by your site. Think it is informative...Hey, dropped by your site. Think it is informative. I think there is so many wolves out there it isnt funny. Would like to say, think the problem is that the fake believers are often the wealthiest are politically correct. The Illumanati is trying to rule southern states now. Bankers, 501c3 groups are involved in the mind control efforts to control individuals and rub corporations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-81658486204943659742012-02-01T19:53:53.612-06:002012-02-01T19:53:53.612-06:00well if i could debate her i dont think she would ...well if i could debate her i dont think she would be willing.patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-71852452974096181322012-01-27T20:50:14.592-06:002012-01-27T20:50:14.592-06:00These programs are of Cathy Burns. I am not her. S...These programs are of Cathy Burns. I am not her. So I cannot answer your question.Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-31496703532262698912012-01-27T20:44:27.304-06:002012-01-27T20:44:27.304-06:00Ms Cathy you quote judas being saved but i dont se...Ms Cathy you quote judas being saved but i dont see no scripture in the bible that show judas being saved.patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-29967497268935822162012-01-23T11:16:55.603-06:002012-01-23T11:16:55.603-06:00You see Ms Cathy judas was never saved in the firs...You see Ms Cathy judas was never saved in the first place thats why he's in hell and not heaven because he was a devil from the beginning.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-60871822020855644662011-08-22T22:22:21.722-05:002011-08-22T22:22:21.722-05:00oops i forgot to tell you that im not a calvinist ...oops i forgot to tell you that im not a calvinist i grew a baptist,now im non denomination,anyway some people look into john 10:28 saying that man can pluck himself out i disagree with dan corner and everybody else's comment on that 1.mabye we should stop listening to other peoples interprations on it and see what the bible says since its 100% truth.here's what isaiah said,But Zion said, The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me Isaiah 49:14.Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee Isaiah 49:15.Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me Isaiah 49:16.patrick bellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-58613861855096076102011-08-22T22:09:25.881-05:002011-08-22T22:09:25.881-05:00hi cathy im gonna give you psalms 37:22,For such a...hi cathy im gonna give you psalms 37:22,For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.psalms 37:23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.psalms 37:24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.with that being said now we can goto john 10:27-28 notice when jesus said no man can snatch them out of my hand did you know that jesus spoke of not only his hand but the father's hand im not taking away free will but those that truly wanna be kept by god are kept by god.patrick bellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-87659548075098697522011-08-22T21:58:22.055-05:002011-08-22T21:58:22.055-05:00hi cathy let me give you scriptures that proves th...hi cathy let me give you scriptures that proves that those that are truly saved wont turn there backs on god. john 6:39 john 10:27-28.patrick bellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-39980519431813676552011-08-21T01:00:38.139-05:002011-08-21T01:00:38.139-05:00Hi Patrick,
Maybe Moses committed murder before h...Hi Patrick,<br /><br />Maybe Moses committed murder before he got saved. <br /><br />I know I committed murder/had an abortion before I got saved. <br /><br />I repented and I believe Moses did too.Cathyhttp://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-35535394144108658662011-08-21T01:00:16.814-05:002011-08-21T01:00:16.814-05:00Hi Patrick,
Maybe Moses committed murder before h...Hi Patrick,<br /><br />Maybe Moses committed murder before he got saved. <br /><br />I know I committed murder/had an abortion before I got saved. <br /><br />I repented and I believe Moses did too.Cathyhttp://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-45411628881341676962011-08-20T23:34:52.299-05:002011-08-20T23:34:52.299-05:00cathy burns uses the prodical how he became dead a...cathy burns uses the prodical how he became dead and alive again proven that it can be lost well in the same parable why did they kill the fattened calf if you can be saved 1,2,3,4,5,99 times etc.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-35710613759151789942011-08-20T23:31:32.787-05:002011-08-20T23:31:32.787-05:00cathy i would like to ask you this. according to r...cathy i would like to ask you this. according to revalations 21:8 murders idolators etc. will goto hell okay so when moses committed murder did he lose his salvation? (exodus 2:11-15) what i did see is that moses appeared with the lord not hell and hes 1 of the hereos of faith according to hebrews.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-52945724671873189882010-11-02T11:05:35.536-05:002010-11-02T11:05:35.536-05:00What a WONDERFUL testimony!!!!What a WONDERFUL testimony!!!!Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-54609912868773996862010-11-02T10:45:28.791-05:002010-11-02T10:45:28.791-05:00From all of my research, I keep hearing/reading (f...From all of my research, I keep hearing/reading (from multiple sources) that the (1611) King James Version is the most trustworthy of them all, so that is the one I read everyday.<br /><br />About 18 months-1yr. ago, I had discovered LIE after LIE after LIE (through researching, one thing led to another and another and another) about our world and everything in it and about it and got so sick & tired of it (and fearful!) that I said, "There has GOT to be ONE grain of TRUTH!!! SOMEWHERE!! Just *ONE* is ALL I'm asking/looking/searching for ...and low and behold, I wound up being "born again"!<br /><br />Thank you all for your replies! God Bless!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-28395135127848549792010-11-02T08:50:39.658-05:002010-11-02T08:50:39.658-05:00Well bless your heart... you know what is causing ...Well bless your heart... you know what is causing a lot of the trouble and confusion? The modern Bible versions. <br /><br />Stick to the King James (and not the New King James) and the Holy Spirit will lead you to the truth. I believe that those who love the truth will not be deceived.<br /><br />"For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."<br />Hebrews 4:12<br /><br />http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Hbr&c=4&v=1&t=KJV#topCathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-87751380115098386292010-11-02T08:27:32.729-05:002010-11-02T08:27:32.729-05:00So...really!?! That's it? I can do that! So...So...really!?! That's it? I can do that! So no one else has "direct (concrete) assurance" either? Is that where FAITH comes in? Is that what it MEANS "to have faith"? (sorry and thanks for everyones patience ...I'm just a newcomer to all of this and just trying to get to the bottom of the basics!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-2079569486824013712010-11-02T07:01:07.331-05:002010-11-02T07:01:07.331-05:00Your salvation is secure as long as you don't ...Your salvation is secure as long as you don't turn your back on the LORD Jesus Christ. Don't worry but trust the Lord.<br /><br />"Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present [you] faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen."<br />Jude 1:24,25<br />http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jud&c=1&t=KJV&q=judeCathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-30502303725172305782010-11-01T14:03:30.166-05:002010-11-01T14:03:30.166-05:00Somebody please help me to understand. I have bee...Somebody please help me to understand. I have been wrestling with and stressing over this issue for too long. I need peace about it. If there is no eternal security then WHAT (exactly) does one do that causes them to lose it? The answer to this question may answer my next question: What must I do to make sure I don't lose my security?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-23445558630106594672009-10-06T11:29:37.460-05:002009-10-06T11:29:37.460-05:00Cathy,
Where does sin begin?...In the heart. Jesu...Cathy,<br /><br />Where does sin begin?...In the heart. Jesus taught this principle in the sermon on the mount in Matt.5:27,28 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Jeremiah 17:9 says: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? <br />If our salvation depended upon our works we would all go to HELL! If we simply allow our thoughts to stray away from God we are guilty of sin. If this were the case, the born-again believer would never be of any use to the ministry, because we would constantly be on our knees repenting if our short comings could cost us our salvation.<br />The parable of The Prodigal Son confirms the eternal security of the believer. We may stray away in our walk with Him, but we will come back to Him after our time of chastening has come upon us. Heb.12:5-7Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-5986407811633198442009-09-09T18:35:27.806-05:002009-09-09T18:35:27.806-05:00Sorry for the delay but just got home.
OK. Well,...Sorry for the delay but just got home.<br /><br />OK. Well, first you've never answered any of my points. You just keep asking questions. And to be honest, I don't have time to go round and round with someone who doesn't appear to be interested in anything except asking questions.<br /><br />The parables of Matthew have mutiple meanings, but to answer your question, let me ask you a question. Who is Jesus talking to? Take your time, I'll wait......OK, He was speaking to Jews....in the Old Testament. You do realize that before the crucifixion everything was in the OT even though the books are in the NT. Right? Did OT saints get born again like we do? Where did they go when they died? How did the people here in this story take care of their sin? You tell me.<br /><br />The parables have spiritual application and also kingdom application. Do you know the difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Heaven? Explain to me, then. If you can learn the difference, you are on your way to understanding more of the scripture.<br /><br />And to say again: A truly "saved" person cannot ever, ever, ever lose his salvation. Have you found the man who "lost" his circumcision?<br /><br />When you get messed up on doctrine, you get messed up in Matthew, Acts and Hebrews. Why? Because you don't know how to "rightly divide" (II Tim 2:15)<br /><br />It's probably not your fault, but "someone" has taught you this. I hope you've not paid them any money!<br /><br />Take care.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-47058979096700029252009-09-09T00:03:39.868-05:002009-09-09T00:03:39.868-05:00In Matthew 13 Jesus explains the parable of the so...In Matthew 13 Jesus explains the parable of the sower:<br /><br /> 19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. <br /><br /> 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; <br /><br /> 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. <br /><br /> 22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. <br /><br /> 23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. <br /><br />Here we have 4 groups of people. What do you think? Were any of the first 3 saved? <br /><br />I think groups 2 & 3 were saved but lost their salvation.Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-49976126511403539052009-09-08T23:43:13.119-05:002009-09-08T23:43:13.119-05:00(The one thing I don't like about this softwar...(The one thing I don't like about this software is that I can't see your response unless I scroll down the page...bummer!)<br /><br />Cathy, You quote Rev. 3:5. What does it say? He that overcometh...will not be blotted out. That is a promise! Are you "in Christ"? Are you "saved"? Then the bible says that you have ALREADY overcome! I John 4:4 and 5:4 tell us this! What an amazing God! I John 4:4 tells us we overcome...why? Because greater is HE that is in US, than he that is in the world. Because of Christ we are overcomers, not because of ourselves! Amen! You gotta get this, Cathy. It's ALL because of Jesus Christ.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-54506660148122035072009-09-08T23:14:38.233-05:002009-09-08T23:14:38.233-05:00Oh good to hear that you are not a Calvinist, Davi...Oh good to hear that you are not a Calvinist, David.<br /><br />What about this verse in Revelation 3:5 which implies that our name can be blotted out of the book of life?<br /><br />"He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."<br /><br />It won't be blotted out if we overcome. How do we overcome?<br /><br /> 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. <br /><br /> 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? <br />1 John 5<br /><br />Yes, we are saved though faith which is the gift of God.<br /><br />Ephesians 2 says<br /> 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: <br /><br /> 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. <br /><br /> 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. <br /><br />David, I simply want the truth. <br /><br />May we both come to know the Truth I pray in Jesus name.Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-13404760819536238572009-09-08T22:12:30.025-05:002009-09-08T22:12:30.025-05:00No free will? Where did that come from? I am NOT...No free will? Where did that come from? I am NOT a calvinist!<br /><br />But you are right. Nothing a person "does, thinks or say will change his salvation". That's right. And you missed it on John. He lost FAITH! He wasn't just asking a question.<br /><br />What do drunks stumbling out of a bar who prayed as a kid have to do with anything? I'm talking about someone who is SAVED! Now, you might think a drunk who says that is not a Christian but I can't say that. Can Christians get drunk? Can Christians murder? Can Christians sin? Can Christians commit fornication? Can Christians take drugs? YES! Ask King David about sex sin and murder. Ask Paul about doing those things he knew not to do (Romans 7).<br /><br />So Caty, you must some kind of "checklist" for salvation. Get too many check marks and....zap...you're out! And I'm sure you've never gotten any check marks. How many do you need? How far is too far? According to who? YOU?Davidnoreply@blogger.com