tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post2592706117064841592..comments2023-10-30T06:41:44.467-05:00Comments on whatsup?: Nephilim, Fallen Angels, and Aliens - What Does the Bible Say? by Cathy BurnsCathy Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-21782138486196961392018-01-12T14:06:50.465-06:002018-01-12T14:06:50.465-06:00Anonymous 8.14.2011
Where in the scriptures does i...Anonymous 8.14.2011<br />Where in the scriptures does it say God did not create angels in His image? The image is the form, that they do have.<br /><br />And Job is not dead humans in Heaven. The other scripture in Job when God asks Job 'where were you when I created the heavens and the sons of God shouted for joy...' those are clearly not 'humans' but angelsGriffonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08142764215679146966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-2344006802486810512014-10-22T11:40:07.974-05:002014-10-22T11:40:07.974-05:00I see nothing about a "Book of Enoch" in...I see nothing about a "Book of Enoch" in scripture. <br /><br />Jude 1:14,15 says, "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."<br />http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jde&c=1&t=KJV&q=jude<br /><br />And I do not see the word "Cretans" in scripture either. Where are you reading this?<br />Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-14882295399490372912014-10-22T11:23:13.427-05:002014-10-22T11:23:13.427-05:00That there is no book of Enoch in the Bible is bey...That there is no book of Enoch in the Bible is beyond dispute. However, Jude does quote from the book of Enoch, likewise Paul quotes a pagan poet regarding Cretans. Once something is inscripturated it is a part of God's eternal truth. We cannot however, go beyond what is in God's word. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-89243255792941796412014-06-05T21:17:31.816-05:002014-06-05T21:17:31.816-05:00I don't see any reference to woman pastors in ...I don't see any reference to woman pastors in the Scriptures so I would say nope. Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-48588213462127753962014-06-05T18:27:23.458-05:002014-06-05T18:27:23.458-05:00Hi!
Whats your take on female pastors.
The KJV cl...Hi!<br /><br />Whats your take on female pastors.<br />The KJV clearly states women should be quiet in the official church?Mollanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08690681645899634909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-12912381700795462692014-05-24T07:10:18.938-05:002014-05-24T07:10:18.938-05:00There is no book of Enoch in the Bible. Jude menti...There is no book of Enoch in the Bible. Jude mentions the person Enoch and that is all.Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-82671649122895136192014-05-24T00:20:47.043-05:002014-05-24T00:20:47.043-05:00Isn't the book of Enoch quoted by some of Jesu...Isn't the book of Enoch quoted by some of Jesus' own disciples in their letters? e.g. book of Jude's reference to the devil fighting for Moses' body. Read 1 Enoch 1:9-10 and compare with Jude 1:14-15. You claim that occultists only quote EnochHammanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394380012078592871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-89208643696708797032011-08-14T01:28:57.833-05:002011-08-14T01:28:57.833-05:00It is very simple............
GOD only created ma...It is very simple............<br /><br />GOD only created man in HIS image, not the angels, therefore only man can be called, 'Sons of GOD'. Those 'Sons of GOD' in the throne in Job, are those men who have died and their spirits with the Lord. An angel and a woman can not mate, get married, or bear children, that is a doctrine of devils which is not found in the BIBLE itslf, only outside of the WORD of GOD. Acts 17 tells us all men were made of one blood, there is no satanic bloodine, those are all lies, there are only those saved (sons of GOD), and those unsaved (sons of man).............May GOD have all the glory!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-40636386402714108362011-08-07T16:01:58.453-05:002011-08-07T16:01:58.453-05:00The interviewer mentions that The Dead Sea Scrolls...The interviewer mentions that The Dead Sea Scrolls were "pagan" writings. Actually many were scripture and some were commentary that was contemporary to Jesus written, possibly by a known and accepted sect of Jews. I am not saying they were accurate in their commentary only that we can learn from them.<br />Everything must line up with scripture but unless one is a Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek scholar one is likely to need to depend on human translators who were fallible.<br />One example is that of the KJV. There never was a writer in the Bible named James. It was made up on orders to the translators by King James to find his name in scripture. He desired to prove hies right to rule as "God's annointed". The whole divine rights of Kings thing.<br />The name of the Author was Y'acov or Jaqcob. Now how does anyone turn Jacob into James. Common folks do some real looking into just how translators have twisted things to fit the doctrines of their day.<br />This is why Jesus, Y'shua said that the Holy Spirit would be our teacher. He is the voice of God to us and will confirm, correct or otherwise reveal what is going on when we read the Word. <br />That is not to say w do not discern through study and handling of Scripture. If what we are "hearing" does not line up with scripture we, at the very least, shelve it until more is revealed to us through scripture. <br />I have changed many of my doctrines over the years as I have studied more. Not the basic tenants of the faith but certainly the ones that have nothing to do with my salvation.<br />We were never called to "Major on the Minors" so to speak. We are called to go into all the world and preach the gospel. We are not called to endless debates on minor doctrinal differences.<br />When we stand before Him on that Day I suspect we will find we were wrong about most things and spent an inordinate amount of time on things that were temporal and not eternal that we thought otherwise about.Ephraiyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07016167856645786734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-21136064524817167632011-04-14T18:22:20.567-05:002011-04-14T18:22:20.567-05:00I have presented material on both sides of the Nep...I have presented material on both sides of the Nephillim argument over the years, including over six hours of shows with Paul Sandhu who argued against the Nephillim as hybrids of angelic beings and humans. My conclusion is that the Bible DOES present evidence to support the human/fallen ones intermingling...IF one reads without prejudice.<br /><br />On the other hand, the Bible is not a history book, although it has some history; it is not a book on anthropology, or science, or many other subjects..."if one only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail..." To conclude, solely on the cursory evidence one reads in the Bible that the Nephillim story is bunk, is to ignore a huge body of evidence to one's own harm. If you read it with understanding, and apply that understanding to reach a conclusion, then we just disagree...but basing an opinion on the Bible ONLY is irredeemably ignorant. <br /><br />I not only find no conflict in the evidence of scores of external writings on the Nephillim with scripture, but find they affirm the Biblical accounts. Arguing on the semantics of the words "sons of God", translated out of two different languages is sophistry, not scholarship---God did not tell you to be stupid! Can you get the ball scores from the Bible? Can you repair an engine from the Bible? Why do you insist the Bible is the end-all-be-all Swiss Army Knife of all things? <br /><br />Not even the Bible itself supports that kind of insular thinking. I will be glad to provide my own proofs as why I think the accounts of Genesis 6 point to a human-hybridization program---and WHY this matters now more than ever.<br /><br />Randy Maugans-The Threshing Floor/ExoticaRandyMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14498540469431172109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-54433288576712156232010-10-05T21:17:59.443-05:002010-10-05T21:17:59.443-05:00The sons of God have always existed from the book ...The sons of God have always existed from the book of Gen. Adam was the first son of God though he fell away, and the appointed seed Seth was the replacement for Abel. They are His remnant appointed sons. The full weight of scripture will tell you Abraham was a son of God as well. It is easy to identify them in Gen 4-5-6. Gen 4 & 6 are the two parts cut off, and the remnant seed from ch 5 " Noah" was led through the fire . It is the same story of mingling from the beginning to the end of the bible over and over. <br /> <br />The Nephalim is a fable of Jews first recorded in the post cross age written by Josephus, it is really a Hellenistic Jewish fable. And totally goes against scripture. Think about it logically I'm sure God would not give half breed angels 120 years to repent, that does not make any since at all. Plus God said he destroyed the word for ONLY ONE REASON. THE WICKEDNESS OF MAN. It says nothing about the wickedness of angels. This fallen angel story is as silly as the 7 year treaty that give the works of Christ who confirmed the covenant in Daniel ch 9, over to the antichrist which is never mentioned in the entire chapter. This is Just More end times confusion.<br /> <br />GEN CH 6<br />5 And God saw that the (((wickedness of man was great in the earth))), and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.<br />6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.<br />7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.<br /> <br />Cain was a man born to Eve, but Seth was a son born to Eve, as God had appointed her "another seed" to replace Abel. Then it gives Cains generations who were separated in the land of Nod, and they began to partake in earthly desires, while the line of Seth began to call upon the Lord. As time had gone by these sons mixed with the ways of man (daughters) and became lukewarm (mingling), as to the time of Noah, he was the only one left. God waited for Methuselah to die, before He flooded the world.<br /> <br />Compare the two Enoch's in Gen, and the two Lamech's in Gen. The are the complete opposites. This is the same story as Esau and Jacob.<br /> <br />It is even possible that Cain and Able were twins, although scripture does not openly state that, but it does subtly hint that it may have been possible. This same story is in the Kingdom of Solomon as well, as he mingled with strange wife's who brought in different Gods, this is why Solomon did not carry the seed appointment unto Jesus, Nathan was the 34th seed carrier as the seed went around Solomons linage.<br /> <br />Noah was perfect in his generations and walked with God. Yes the Lord also has angels who are sons of God as well. If you learn the patterns and formula's in scripture they always repeat, in fact Gen ch 2-6 are the whole condensed version of the bible. Same story over, and over it just keeps getting bigger. Christ the redeemer is first mentioned in Gen ch 3-22 " lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"-- Christ is the tree of life.<br /> <br />I have a lot of notes on this subject, and I hope to do an audio on the in the near future. Probably would take from 1 to 2 hours. If I do I will send it to you Cathy.<br /> <br /> <br />God Bless<br />Bill JohnsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-13523135670679647592010-09-05T18:45:12.666-05:002010-09-05T18:45:12.666-05:00Thanks Derrick for the encouragment!Thanks Derrick for the encouragment!Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-76437451007983736002010-09-05T15:35:03.252-05:002010-09-05T15:35:03.252-05:00Hello Cathy, just wanted to say thank you for bein...Hello Cathy, just wanted to say thank you for being obedient to the word and sharing the gospel and exposing evil and deception. The word of God(King James) is our only reference. Praise God for your work.Derricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-3040934685172282882009-07-02T22:59:28.676-05:002009-07-02T22:59:28.676-05:00Hi Hercules,
Not sure exactly what you are asking....Hi Hercules,<br />Not sure exactly what you are asking. Please clarify - thanks.<br /><br />Btw, looks like you are using the New King James Bible. I used to as well until I discovered that it has BIG problems. Please check this out:<br />http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html<br /><br />blessings,<br />CathyCathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-3104588526031972532009-07-02T19:26:47.117-05:002009-07-02T19:26:47.117-05:00Cathy, interesting blog. I think Chuck Missler doe...Cathy, interesting blog. I think Chuck Missler does cover some interesting highlights. Yeah a lot of stuff has been covered in the Book of Enoch but its interesting to know that even the author of that book takes notice of the so called giants and hybrid thousands of years ago.<br /><br />What's your intake with these following verses straight out of the Bible:<br /><br />Jude 1:6 <br /><br /><b>6And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, 7just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.8Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties.</b><br /><br /><br /><br />1 Peter 3:18<br /><br />18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom[d] also he went and preached to<b> the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.</b><br /><br />II Peter 2:4-5, 9 <br /><br /><b>“For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah,</b> one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;…..Herculeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14668872789701326212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-5681612852003050622009-06-08T21:48:22.293-05:002009-06-08T21:48:22.293-05:00Anonymous said...
Charles is dead wrong on the two...<i>Anonymous said...<br />Charles is dead wrong on the two angels not choosing sodomy out of obedience to God.They were there to delover lot out of Sodom,</i><br /><br />Yes....I fully aware....the roll of the two Angels were too deliver Lot.<br /><br />Genesis 19:12-13 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.<br /><br /><br />So far as Angels having freewill...well...they chose to sin.<br /><br />2Pe 2:4<br />Verse 4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned.<br /><br />It is morally certain that they must have fallen at some period from a state of holiness, for it can not be believed that God made them wicked.<br /><br />Jude 1:6<br />And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation<br /><br />The word rendered habitation occurs nowhere else in the New Testament. It means here that heaven was their native abode or dwelling-place. They left it by sin; but the expression here would seem possibly to mean that they became dissatisfied with their abode, and voluntarily preferred to change it for another. If they did become thus dissatisfied, the cause is wholly unknown.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09056286925309479809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-47861895088835362392009-06-06T11:30:12.722-05:002009-06-06T11:30:12.722-05:00Dear Anonymous - many thanks for your comments and...Dear Anonymous - many thanks for your comments and links on various posts! <br /><br />Pls drop me an email at cathyjpalmer@yahoo.com<br /><br />cheers!<br /><br />Cathy<br /><br />Zephaniah 3:17<br />The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.Cathy Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16700052760855695613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-66685402307618130462009-06-06T04:28:59.769-05:002009-06-06T04:28:59.769-05:00Yes,the ufo writngs go back at least to the 6th ce...Yes,the ufo writngs go back at least to the 6th century AD in China from secula historians.The reigious writings go back to the 2nd century AD with the gnostic gospels.It is hard to believe Christians use these at all.I think they rationalize it by saying it is not for doctrine,but in reality they believe these views as if they are doctrine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-77130357484925752182009-06-06T01:33:37.333-05:002009-06-06T01:33:37.333-05:00The late satanist I was referring to in my first p...The late satanist I was referring to in my first post is Aleister Crowley who channeled the demon called Aiwass,and called himself the Great Beast 666.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-5627955468456337652009-06-06T01:24:10.903-05:002009-06-06T01:24:10.903-05:00Incidentally,I do believe the King James Bible is ...Incidentally,I do believe the King James Bible is the only true Bible outside of the original manuscripts.And I've heard Cathy and Kelly go on and on about Nef El meaning to fall down and not fallen ones,but that is conjecture.I got your link form Kelly's site.She is dead on in exposing Alex Jones and many other people in the alternative media aka "Truth movement".I gave Jones the benfit of the doubt for years but only because Inever really listened to the guy.I've studies the Illuminati years befroe he even came on the scene.She is wrong about pastor Meyers though.He isn't a fear monger.He preaches hard truths.This nation and the world is apostate to the core.And although Texe Marrs was wrong in promoting Pugh,I have no problem with his exposing zionism,though Kelly thinks he;s an antisemite[correct me if I'm wrong].But the rest of those so-called patriots and ministers she's exposed in her shows are indeed charlatans.They always say you need to buy this or that and that people do not understand anything.Hey,most don'r,but constantly telling people that only they have the answer instead of pointing Jesus is a red flag for any Christian.Quayle,Jones,Bay,Mclamb and Deagle are hypocrites as they claim to be Christians.The rest are overt new agers and occultists.Icke,Maxwell,Tsarion,and a few others are honered by Bullhorn Jones.So yes,for the most part Kelly is on target.I would just encourage anyone that buys into chiliasm--dispensationalism-millenialism- look at Scripture and seek discernment from the Holy Spirt instead of buying into the whole master race theology.Read Gal.3,John 8 and Rev.2:9 and ask the Lord to open their eyes and ears.Take Care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-43363795110967127562009-06-06T00:46:27.275-05:002009-06-06T00:46:27.275-05:00You know,the Gen.6 as Nephilim doesn't mean yo...You know,the Gen.6 as Nephilim doesn't mean you see Ezekiel and other passages as ufo encounters.Although I disahree with Mike Heiser on many things he does explin those visions as true visions and not ufo scenarios.Also,we have writtenr ecords of ufos going back to the 6th century AD and various types og glyphs going back thousands of years.The whole dispensational position distorts Scripture.Look at the pop-prophecy gurus looking for a revived Rome with the EEC until it went over 13 nation and changed to the EU and they backpeddled.And a literal Babylon in Iraq with the Gulf War.No,America is Babylon and the UN is the housing for that world government.--- The Fall of the United States of Babylon!<br /><br />"And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."<br /><br />Revelation 18:1-3 http://lasttrumpetnewsletter.org/2009/06_09.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-8759447286997547922009-06-06T00:27:31.893-05:002009-06-06T00:27:31.893-05:00The biggest problem about this Gen.3 position with...The biggest problem about this Gen.3 position with those professing to be Christians is their reverence for extrabiblical sources like Enoch.Look at Flynn's website and forum.I was there for a month or two but gave up as everyone there mixes occult sources and practice such as astrology and numerology into the mix.Not to ecpose but to fashion their eschatology on it... website- http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ forum-- http://watcher.boardzero.com/the-watcher-forum-f3/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-84993452644013045902009-06-06T00:24:03.765-05:002009-06-06T00:24:03.765-05:00Cathy Burn's book is really about exposing the...Cathy Burn's book is really about exposing the gnostic view on this subject although she lumps in Gen'6 as well.I don't have aproblem with what she is saying with regards to the Gen.3 position.Look at the synopsis of her book,and you'll see it is really about refuting Pugh's claims.I don't see conclusive proof of discrediting the Gen.6 position as a stand alone theory.---- Quote: A popular theme today is the topic of the Nephilim, fallen<br /><br />angels, and aliens. Many TV programs, movies, books, videos,<br /><br />and role-playing games revolve around extraterrestrial contact,<br /><br />alien abductions, and hybrids. In this book, Dr. Burns looks at<br /><br />Genesis 6. Using the Bible as her main source of reference, she<br /><br />addresses such issues as the “sons of God” in Genesis 6, fallen<br /><br />angels, giants, DNA, cloning, the Shroud of Turin, hybrids, golems,<br /><br />Nephilim, the watchers, the “serpent seed,” Cain’s real father, Eve’s<br /><br />partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, why Cain<br /><br />is not listed in Christ’s lineage, why God sent the flood and how<br /><br />the end times will be “as the days of Noah.” She also has a chapter<br /><br />dealing with the Book of Enoch and how it compares to the Bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-1239691443188051872009-06-06T00:19:16.515-05:002009-06-06T00:19:16.515-05:00Charles is dead wrong on the two angels not choosi...Charles is dead wrong on the two angels not choosing sodomy out of obedience to God.They were there to delover lot out of Sodom,and they were not fallen angels,so that proposition is bizarre,unless the point is that they have freewill.Odd way to state that when referring to heavenly angels.But if I'm not mistaken the point is that both heavenly and fallen angels have freewill.Although fallen angels can't reverse their choice now as the Lake of Fire is their destiny,the servants of God still have freewill to disobey,though I don't see that in Scripture overtly so it is not a doctrine,just an opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612335.post-11838708182775787342009-06-06T00:02:43.497-05:002009-06-06T00:02:43.497-05:00Hi Cathy.I also want to point out that Charles mad...Hi Cathy.I also want to point out that Charles made a great point on the flesh and bones deal.When we are told in Hebrews about entertaing angels unaware it is obvious form sudying Scripture in its entirety that angels can take on the human nature,albeit temporariliy.So although that doesn't prove the Nephilim and Raphaim,it certainly lends that theory Biblical credence.Bottom line---watch and pray and look up for a redemption that draweth nigh.And put on the whole armor of God to withstand the darts and arrows of Satan and his demons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com