Discernment Information by Raynie Sivillo

If someone is promoting these teachings, be careful. I’m not judging whether the people teaching these are Christians - that’s up to the Lord - but, these teachings and practices themselves do not stand up to the scrutiny of God’s Word.

Terms that should raise red flags:

Emergent / Emerging
Contemplative Prayer
Centering Prayer
The Silence
Breath prayers
The Be Still DVD
Walking the Labyrinth
Walk to Emmaus
Lectio Divina
Inner Healing
Vision Casting
Desert Fathers
Christian Mystics
Ancient / Future
Stations of the Cross
Purpose Driven Movement
Global Peace Plan
The Message Paraphrase
Biblical Feminism
Christ/Sophia Worship
The Secret
Positive Confession
The Prayer of Jabez
Paradigm Shift
Spiritual Disciplines
Spiritual Director
Spiritual Formation
12-Step Programs

If you have any questions on why I have mentioned these, you owe it to the Lord. to yourself, and and to the Body of Christ - and I challenge you - to do your own study and research.

This is just a partial list. Some of these can be categorized as the Liberal social gospel in a new package - watering down the Word of God. Some of these even have a stealth political socialist agenda. Some include psychological man-centered teachings. Some are New Age teachings dressed up in Christian garb.

Many are bringing the false teaching of Catholicism into our Evangelical churches - taking us back to Rome - and to the One-World Religion. Let me remind you that we’re having this Bible study today because of the great martyrs of the past -who were burned at the stake by Roman Catholic heretics for defending the Truth in this Bible so that we can freely hold it in our hands.

I’ve heard it said - by solid Christians who spend a lot of time studying this - that it’s (the deception) coming in like an avalanche - they’ve never seen anything like it. We don’t have the option of remaining gullible. A. W. Tozer said: "Gullibility is not synonymous with spirituality." We must wake up!! I’m intentionally sounding an alarm!

Discernment websites that have valuable information for your own research: (Eastern Regional Watch) ( Ken Silva ) (Roger Oakland) (Brian Flynn)
All Articles by Paul Proctor are Excellent - Very Insightful

Books explaining some of the issues:

Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church? James Sundquist

The Dark Side of the Purpose Driven Church - Noah W. Hutchings

Deceived on Purpose - Warren Smith

Yoga and the Body of Christ - Dave Hunt

I Only Wanted More Land-Jabez - Gary Gilley
This Little Church went to Market - Gary Gilley
This Little Church Stayed Home - A Faithful Church in Deceptive Times - Gary Gilley

Fool’s Gold - John MacArthur
Reckless Faith - John MacArthur

Running Against the Wind - Brian Flynn

A Time of Departing - Ray Yungen

Redefining Christianity - Bob DeWaay


simon said…
Hi, i just stumbled across your blog. While i have sympathy with *some* of the things in this list, could you explain why you have included the following?

Contemplative Prayer
Lectio Divina
Desert Fathers
Christian Mystics
Spiritual Director
Cathy said…
Hi Simon,

Thanks for your question.

Not long ago, I was being swept up into some of these practices until I came to realize there is great danger in them because they have the appearance of being good but in reality are not scriptural.

Please read this article which better explains it:

May Christ Jesus bless you on your journey as He leads you into all Truth!

R. Mansfield said…
Cathy, you have a very interesting and diverse topics on your blog.

I notice in this post, you list two Bible versions I like very much: the TNIV and the Message.

I wonder if you might share specific concerns you personally (as opposed to something you've heard secondhand) have about either of these versions.

If you're interested, I've reviewed both the TNIV and The Message over on my blog. Feel free to check them out from those two links.
Cathy said…
Thanks for writing R. and for asking about the Bible versions. Basically, I have come to believe that the Textus Receptus is the correct version of the Bible (from which we get the King James Version) and all modern translations are based on corrupt manuscripts and are continuously being changed/revised.

In 1976 when I first got saved, I used the King James Bible. Then over the years I used the NIV, NAS, NKJ, NLB, Amplified, and others. But now, I am back to the King James.

If you do a search in my blog for Bible versions, you will see that I've written about this on several occassions. There is plenty of proof to show me that the Word of God is, has been, and will continue to be under attack - no surprise there - and the King James is the best source.

May Christ Jesus bless you in your search for Truth!

R. Mansfield said…
And may God bless you in the same, Kathy. I've said before that I have respect for TR proponents as long as it's not a veiled excuse for KJV-onlyism which I find to be illogical.

I'm curious, what do you think of the NKJV which is also based on the TR? And what do you think of Robinson & Pierpont's Greek NT according to the Byzantine textform?
R. Mansfield said…
Sorry to misspelly your name with a K instead of a C. My wife's name is "K"athy, and it's a habit to spell it that way.
Cathy said…
I'm no expert on this subject but respect a few individuals who I've heard speak on the Textus Receptus, thus my stance.

I am not familiar with the sources you asked about and the NKJ New Testament may be ok but I just prefer to stick to the King James.

One of my favorite passages, Proverbs 3:5-8, which tells us NOT to lean on our own understanding nor be wise in our own eyes, but rather we are commanded to trust in the Lord with all our heart.

May the Lord Jesus Christ give us both discernment and His wisdom in all this I pray!
Cathy said…
Today my friend, Raynie who authored this post, sent this email to me:

The Lord’s Prayer in The Message:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what’s best –
as above so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves
and the Devil. You’re in charge!
You can do anything you want! You’re ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes

WHAT??????? Without having to go into a long dissertation regarding the many problems with The Message – this one phrase alone alerts me to the fact that something is drastically wrong with this paraphrase of God’s Holy Word. Sorry, but you don’t have to be a rocket scientist or even a theologian to get this one!!

From my many years entrenched and deceived in the New Age movement I am well aware that this (as above, so below) is their mantra. All you have to do is to do a Google search and see what comes up. i.e. “This ancient phrase, “As above, so below” describes the Oneness of All That Is.” “That which is above is the same as that which is below…The universe is the same as God, God is the same as man…”, etc., etc., etc.

WHY is this phrase used? Somebody must have known its esoteric meaning. That’s only one of many New Age implications in The Message.

Here’s a very good article that was written by Berit Kjos that can explain more of the reasons for adding that book to my list.

More later…….
R. Mansfield said…
It's a coincidence. First, the Message is a paraphrase, not a translation, and people tend to forget that. Second, it was not written in a vacuum, but by Eugene Peterson, one of the godliest Christians I know. Peterson himself has said that he cringes whenever he hears the Message quoted in worship services. That's not why he wrote it. And from what I know of him, he's certainly no advocate of New Age philosophy.
Cathy said…
Today's (6-9-07) blog post on Freemasonry has several links and the video "Exposing the Illuminati From Within" talks about the dangers of modern Bible versions in the last half of Part 2. I encourage you to check it out!
Cathy said…
Received this comment from Raynie today:

As far as The Message containing the phrase "as above, so below," I'm not so sure that it could just be written off as a coincidence. It's hard to believe that nobody told Eugene Peterson the stumbling block this would cause someone who was coming out of the New Age/New Spirituality Movement and reading this paraphrase. For that reason alone, a mature, godly Christian would have removed it. Actually there's nothing wrong with the original wording. It's very easy to understand, so why put in a phrase that is so "loaded" to so many people.