Is 'Soaking Prayer' Biblical?
Here are a few quotes regarding 'soaking prayer', something I used to do but not any longer.
Please prayerfully consider the following:
"In order to gauge whether or not soaking prayer is a valid form of prayer or communication to God, we must first look to God’s word. Prayer in its purest form is calling on the name of God and in every scriptural example is a done as a form of communication with the Lord. Although at first glance soaking prayer may seem that it follows this model of prayer it does not. Like most lies of the enemy a closer look will reveal a different picture. Soaking prayer involves a trance like meditative or contemplative state in which the adherent is encouraged to empty their mind. This type of prayer seeks to experience God’s presence through mystical exercises which teeters dangerously on the edge of the esoteric. As believers we understand that God’s presence is ever with us and when we come to prayer it is with His will in mind not ours." source
"Soaking Prayer is nothing more than contemplative / centering / listening prayer and is used for occult meditation. The Elijah List website sells a broad range of Soaking Prayer CDs, packaged as contemplative soaking, soaking worship, spontaneous worship, saturating, prophetic worship." source
"Soaking & being slain in the spirit are occult. There is a short answer and a long answer. The long one is given in True to His Ways. The short one is that it is Satan and his demons only who are at work in both yoga and Charismatic spirituality. We know this, because both are occult. The occult is Satan’s territory, and is where we meet with him and his demons. God simply cannot be found in the occult. Occultism is how Satan and his angels deceive, seduce, beguile, terrorize and defile their victims." source
"So how did Bentley purport to get into that secret place? He explains that in another session from the same conference in his message entitled, "Soaking." In that message he said that he began to practice "contemplative prayer" something he said he learned from studying the lives of mystics such as Brother Lawrence and an Indian mystic named Sundar Singh. He said that this silence launched his ministry after three months of soaking (meditating in an altered state of consciousness) culminated in a physical encounter with Jesus Christ who stood behind him and spoke to him audibly." source
Needless to say, soaking prayer is not something true Christians should be embrasing but rather, we should be renounce it.
blessings & love,
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
1 Corinthians 4
SEPTEMBER 19, 2014 UPDATE
Received the following email this morning from Jan - also added my reply:
Dear Cathy....I so appreciate your comments about soaking prayer. I too have repented and moved away from this and other elements of prayer ministries that do not match with scripture.
I was in a church where a locally renowned prayer minister joined our body via marriage. I have also been to other prayer ministries, and eventually came (with the Lord’s help through scripture) to my own “what-in-the-world-have-I-been-thinking?” moment. I have asked how I ever got “into” those ministries and have concluded that my flesh (I want to be as gifted and spiritual as those folks) was at play....although I never would have admitted all that at the time. Mixed in was also a desire to experience all God had for me. You may notice a theme of I’s, me’s, my’s.
To again go to the Lord without a special priest (prayer minister) is just what our Father ordered. I remember meditating on the verse in Psalms that says the Lord is a very present help in trouble. I kept wondering (as I traveled for work) why He said VERY. Present is present.....why VERY present?
When I could look it up, the very means vehemently present (no mystical experience required). He is THERE. Your blog was a reminder of that.
I do have a question about “discernments” some prayer ministers get.....and they seem to spread to others in training. I think the bottom line is that these things are not from the Holy Spirit, but I would appreciate any insight you may have. (By the way, you may find this question your blog comment section as well. Somehow I messed up the email address there so it doesn’t work.....hence, a longer version in your email.)
The woman at my former church “sees” what she calls discernments: one was a large snake crawling up her unclothed body that her husband had to make leave. She describes watching a demon “lumbering” up the stairs in her home; animals, etc. Her students then begin to see demons (even in Christians) such as prostitution...or other demons in a home or building. As these “gifts” accumulate, more and more are in awe of them....even elders. Some of these ministers do the praying FOR vulnerable believers.....and tell them the next steps the Lord wants them to take. Why not pray WITH people and mentor them biblically in prayer....so there won’t be a top-down priesthood thing?
Enough said. I would appreciate your input.
Good morning, Jan,
Thank you for you email and kind words regarding my blog. Much of what I post is to raise awareness as well as help me to process everything I read and am learning.
These days, I pretty much avoid organized churches and ministers altogether even though I'm sure there are a few good ones out there... somewhere... maybe. Anyway, it's been quite the journey and the Lord Jesus Christ has been and continues to be faithful each step of the way, as you no doubt are experiencing.
I've had to repent of A LOT of unscriptural behavior as I traveled down some pretty bizarre roads. It came to a screeching halt in 2005 while living in Berlin, Germany, as a missionary with FIRE International, a ministry offshoot of Brownsville 'revival'. My story is on my blog but basically, I had been praying for the Lord to heal my heart and expose any lies I was believing. Then BAM! He opened my eyes to much of the deception all around me. It was shocking and it totally rocked my world but today, I am thankful.
Not sure how to answer your questions except if it's not in the Bible (preferable King James - not the New King James either) and you don't have peace about it, don't do it. My 2 cents.
blessings to you,
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
1 John 2:27